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      Colloquio per Mid-level Java Developer

      10 lug 2016
      Candidato anonimo a colloquio
      Saint Louis, MO
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      Esperienza negativa
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      Ho presentato la mia candidatura tramite un selezionatore. Ho sostenuto un colloquio presso World Wide Technology (Saint Louis, MO) nel mese di giu 2016

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      I was contacted by an internal Recruiter about a Java position. I agreed, but when I asked what position the recruiter sees me fit for, he said they don't take into account and that they "like to bring in people they deem a good fit and then find a title" (sound too good to be true?..it is). But he also said for "HR Purposes", he would put me down for Mid-Level Java Developer. I've seen that Mid-Level position open on their website before but never applied to it because it says 3+ years experience, something I don't have. So I should've known from the beginning that this situation might come back to haunt me. I was told from a friend on the inside that one of the interviewers thought the interview went well. Personally I thought it went well. Was told by the recruiter it went well. Recruiter also told me that I was an "absolute culture fit". Sounds like I would get the offer right? You thought wrong. Recruiter then continued to tell me that my skill set was more on the "junior level". (Yeah, no kidding. I've only been using java professionally for 1 year). Then continued on by saying "keep in touch, wait a year and apply again, etc". Absolutely not. Gave me no real reason as to why I didn't get the offer. I was basically set up to fail from the beginning. I was put under the Mid-Level Java Developer application and then was told that my skill-set was more junior level. In a later response from the recruiter, he had the audacity to tell me "Mid-Level Java Developer is just a place holder for every candidate that we run through our interview process". (Yeah, really? You're telling me you would put someone who has 0-1 years experience and someone with 6 years experience under the same "place holder"...I highly doubt it). He continued to tell me that "Finding the person that is the right cultural fit here is the hardest thing we encounter here. When we do find the correct cultural fit we try to help them because part of the cultural fit here is that we know people can learn what they need to learn technically." (Yeah really? Because you just told me in an earlier email that I was an absolute culture fit). Just tell me the truth. You're terrible at your job. You messed up by applying me for the wrong title, and when I told you I was also being offered for a certain salary from another company, you decided to give me an unclear reason as to why I didn't get the job offer. When I responded, you contradicted yourself in the next email. If being a "culture fit" was more important than technical skill level, you never would've brought up the words "junior level skill set" as well as me being an absolute culture fit. You messed up, didn't want to get into a bidding war for someone with a "junior level" skill set for a Mid-Level position that you applied me for. Thanks. And no, I will not email your human resources department. So don't even waste any more of my time by replying to this review with your automated "I'm sorry to hear about your .. " comment.

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      Thanks for the review, and I'm very sorry you came away with such a negative impression of how we handled your interview process. I don't expect you to contact us again, but for your benefit as well as the benefit of others I wanted to try to be more transparent about our process in a way that will hopefully provide additional context about how we make decisions. What the recruiter said to you about the way your application was classified was correct. It is a placeholder for the system that we use, which is provided by our parent company, WWT. It has no bearing on how you are evaluated in the process. We hire many people at a variety of levels of capability, and we do have a classification system of where we think they are that each interviewer uses to give us a sense of what we could expect from a hire and how to properly gauge compensation. However, we expect the interviewers to make that determination, not the recruiters; the interviewers don’t even see the system where your application was classified as “Mid-Level." If you want to blame someone for the fact that we did not make you an offer, please blame me. I am the one who makes the final determination on how to proceed, based on all of the input we gather from our various sources. Sometimes with people we consider to be more entry-level, we may have an interview where everything goes well and all of the interviewers say this is someone we could bring on, but I still decide not to proceed. This is generally because we have already brought on several other entry-level developers before them, and we don’t want to find ourselves in a situation where we have too many people who need more time to learn. This could result in frustration by those people because we can only accommodate a certain number of entry-level developers on each project (and some projects can’t take on any at all due to their complexity), and we would then have some number of them sitting on the “bench” waiting for their opportunity that may be a long time coming. We’ve had this happen before, and it’s not a good result for anyone involved. I'm guessing that given the way you describe the process, you were classified as an entry-level developer, and since we have already brought on several folks at that level (and expect to hire a few more our of our summer intern program), we decided to pass on your application for now. I know this may not be great to hear, that it was a matter of timing, and that if you had somehow gotten through the process earlier you could have made it in. I understand that, but we would still rather that you go out and get experience somewhere else first that better prepares you to work with us in the future than to have you join us and be frustrated and underutilized. In this case, you may rightfully never apply to work here again, and we may have just missed the chance to have a great employee, That’s sad, but it’s the risk we have chosen to take for the benefit of everyone. At any rate, it’s very helpful to hear your side and have a chance to respond. We will work on ways to be more clear with our applicants in the future to try to prevent situations like yours. If you would like to talk more about what happened in your case, you are welcome to contact the recruiter you were working with and ask more questions, he’ll be glad to tell you what he can. I'm glad to hear at least that you got another offer; I hope things work out well for you at your new job.

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