Most departments have very little turnover. This makes it difficult to move up. Even with expansion because they only expansion is to merge or purchase smaller staffed operations. (Clubs). Many management positions are posted only because HR/legal make them, they usually have a person selected internally for each position you know the ole boys club. This intern makes the company incestual and new points of view are never introduced into the company. I work with many 20 -30-year employees who moved up from the mail room over time who for example are afraid to call out or hold poor performing vendors for poor service or pricing because they don't think that is productive. Very strange